He said the same thing for Brand New Day and everything indicates that he told the truth there.
haakonhawk2025-10-09 19:23
But Brand New Day isn't a multiverse movie, no?
Doomsday and Secret Wars, on the other hand, *are*.
John7117112025-10-10 03:55
Ya but Brand new Day is at least a Sony movie. You know the one that actually benefits Sony where they actually make some profit.
Unlike Doomsday or Secret wars where they make none.
ned1012025-10-09 19:36
I suspect even if he was in Brand New Day he couldnt say either way.
vektorkane2025-10-09 19:58
I like how quickly he answers the Spider-Man questions, lol. Hilarious.
AsteroidMike2025-10-09 21:16
Everytime an actor says they’re not in the movie or acts like they don’t know anything, I take that as they actually do know something and are most likely in the movie to some extent and are doing the opposite of what Tom Holland does.
KlausLoganWard2025-10-10 07:00
He is not a werewolf
Immediate_Channel3932025-10-09 19:13
🤣🤣🤣As much as they can try to say no, we *all* know what’s going on. History repeats itself…just waiting for Holland!
justduett2025-10-09 19:14
See you soon! 🫡
16tdean2025-10-09 19:14
Tbf, I actually do think there is no way they appear in Doomsday. The roster is already packed beyond belief, and they frankly aren't really needed.
There is maybe a slim chance for them to show up in Secret Wars. I personally feel like with two massive avengers movies, concluding the multiverse saga, and a spider-man movie, its one of there best chances to bring Miles Morales into things, and have a young hero that people will probably care about.
But even then, you don't need Andrew Garfield and Toby Maguire for that. But it might be fun.
Serawasneva2025-10-09 19:19
I’m pretty confident they will be in Secret Wars, since they’re trying to make it “the biggest Marvel film yet”, I don’t think they’ll leave them out.
But no way they’re in Doomsday.
Kitagawasans2025-10-09 19:31
I’ll bet you $50 they are.
epic_reddit_dude2025-10-09 19:38
It kind of makes sense either way. If they aren’t in doomsday, they’re saving them for secret wars, but if they ARE in doomsday, then secret wars is only going to make even more money because they definitely be in that too
Wtygrrr2025-10-09 20:00
Or maybe they don’t want to pay Sony to be allowed to use them.
eddieswass722025-10-09 20:15
I feel like the gains made on having them would outweigh the cost to use them.
Proper_Opening_91262025-10-09 19:39
Yeah both of these Avengers movies are going to abysmal cameo-fests and then marvel will pivot to x-men stories in the 2030s
DarkDonut752025-10-09 19:42
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I'll take 10 on them not being in it for the action.
ImBackAndImAngry2025-10-09 20:14
I’ll match your 10 that they will be. Just for fun
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Darth_Tycho2025-10-09 20:25
How about a Slap Bet instead?
demonoddy2025-10-09 19:54
It would be weird if they weren’t in secret wars. I’m not expecting them in doomsday
John7117112025-10-10 03:53
Where are you getting such confidence from considering Marvel can't use more than 1 of them without cutting Sony another deal probably involving profit sharing which Disney has never done.
darnitsaucee2025-10-09 19:39
Hard disagree on bringing in miles right now. Tom holland is still young. Everyone cares about Peter Parker, not so much miles morales.
MCMcGreevy2025-10-09 19:43
The Spider-Verse movies have made $1.1 Billion for Sony. I would definitely not say that “no one cares” about Miles Morales.
Beautiful-Goal37192025-10-09 19:48
Those are crazy good movies with a brand new Miles Morales they are not making so much money because of just Miles
thewhitelink2025-10-09 19:52
Yeah but they also had multiple Peter Parkers and Gwen Stacey. Not just Miles.
They're also just like... good movies.
MCMcGreevy2025-10-09 19:59
Crazy, that!
AnySpirit6482025-10-09 20:10
Not just good, top 5 superheroes movies
bee14ish2025-10-09 21:29
So you're saying if the movie is good people will care?! What amazing insight. r/darnitsaucee are you seeing this??
darnitsaucee2025-10-09 21:34
Gotta love Reddit humor
Alseid_Temp2025-10-10 01:07
Eh, one of them is half a movie and we're starting to doubt we'll ever see the second half
darnitsaucee2025-10-09 19:59
That’s a fair argument. I definitely really like those movies, but I guess I’m talking moreso for the general population and live action adaptations.
Ben10_ripoff2025-10-09 19:44
Why do you want Miles so early??
For some fucking reason, Tom have the most screen time out of all the Spider-Men and yet He feels like we have hardy seen him do much Spider-Stuff. I don't want Miles to be a thing in MCU until this trilogy finishes.
Syjefroi2025-10-10 03:09
> and yet He feels like we have hardy seen him do much Spider-Stuff.
It's because it will be 4.5 years since we last saw Tom, with only ~2 years in between his previous movies and a film appearance every year between those. 6 movies in 5 years, compared to 1 in alllmost 5 years. And in all those films, he traveled the world and space and only spent a fraction of his first film (from 8 years ago!) doing neighborhood stuff.
ZekeorSomething2025-10-09 19:47
Peter is a young hero and people care about him.
demonoddy2025-10-09 19:54
I don’t think you realize how big secret wars is
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-09 19:56
There is a rumor that TVA Loki is assembling a team of Multiversal Avengers. The 2 Spider-Men, 616 Cap, Nick Cage Ghost Rider, Deadpool, Wolverine and a few others.
chirop12025-10-09 20:01
Funny... anytime I see someone reference TVA Loki I always wonder when he went to work for the Tennessee Valley Authority.
MrMojoRising4222025-10-09 20:03
tobey will be in it. his makeup photos already leaked.
jumbalayajenkins2025-10-09 20:14
I think introducing Miles in a multiverse movie would suck for 2 reasons. 1) we’ve barely even seen a proper Spider-Man story in the MCU yet so bringing in Peter’s replacement now would be cheap, I think it’s worth waiting a couple movies. The MCU never lets any of their characters marinate. They’re probably gonna replace Thor soon and he’s had like 1.5 good stories in the past 10 years. 2) there’s *no* reason it needs to be tied to the multiverse. It would be so much more investing if his character just comes into the fold naturally in relation to other core Spider-Man characters rather than them speedrunning his character development/introduction in a movie with 1000 other things going on
lambopanda2025-10-09 19:14
Maybe Secret Wars. I don’t think he will be in Doomsday.
john_weiss2025-10-09 20:18
Not Maybe, Garfield, Tobey, everyone else and their mother *WILL* be on Secret Wars. (If they dont get murdered in Doomsday that is).
Mark my words, Secret Wars will be basically the hard reset and the next movie will be a soft reboot for the new MCU.
That movie is gonna be jam-packed with Endgame/NoWayHome level callbacks, cameos and the like from all the things that Marvel can get their hands on.
lambopanda2025-10-09 20:22
We know they are doing soft reboot after Secret Wars. Feige said it in the interview.
john_weiss2025-10-09 20:24
That basically means; *"We're going to do some crazy sh*t with the characters you're never going to see again, so f*ck it. Let's have fun. We want your asses in seats so give us your money."*
ie: They're both coming back again for sure.
ApprehensiveBid52652025-10-09 20:32
Alright John. Lol. Relax.
mutzilla2025-10-10 00:55
Hey, relax, guy!
Biden2028-2025-10-09 20:34
He said the opposite
NervousAd32022025-10-09 22:43
He said it’s a soft reset bc using the word reboot scares ppl
b34r3y2025-10-10 00:39
Does anyone have a link to this interview?
NervousAd32022025-10-10 00:50
[here you go](https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-x-men-recasting-secret-wars-1236465269/)
malexich2025-10-09 22:55
I mean we knew ever since they killed Tony stark that they were rebooting
NervousAd32022025-10-09 22:45
Sorry but this theory isn’t the genius theory you think it is lol.
This is what everybody is expecting them to do & that’s why Feige literally just straight up said it in an interview.
MasterBabuFrik2025-10-09 22:53
"Mark my words".
Calm down, they've basically said as such. Everyone know Secret Wars will be legacy actor city and that we'll have a soft reset of the universe afterwards.
mutzilla2025-10-10 00:56
But did you mark them?
Geshtar12025-10-09 22:56
We getting Ben affleck as daredevil?
blueicearcher2025-10-10 05:35
He died fighting Cassandra Nova in the void.
But don't worry.
*"It's fine" - ~~Jennifer Garner~~ Elektra*
comicgopher2025-10-10 01:27
I wouldn't be surprised if there were call backs to things like the Nicholas Hammond era Spider-Man, Dolph Lundgren Punisher, Hasselhof Nick Fury etc
robodrew2025-10-09 21:03
Honestly I hope they don't appear at all, because the movies are going to be packed enough as it is and No Way Home felt like a nice sendoff for both characters. They got to right their remaining wrongs and have a happy ending.
stick1_2025-10-09 21:43
The point of secret wars is every universe is fighting
robodrew2025-10-09 21:59
I don't really agree with that, I think the point is that the Beyonder or Doom has taken heroes and villains from lots of different comics and whisked them away from Earth to do battle, in secret, on the newly created world Battleworld. It was the first major "crossover event" in Marvel Comics. In the first Secret Wars in 1984, it wasn't different realities really, except that the Beyonder came from between realities. That is more a part of 2015's Secret War with Doom stealing the Beyonder's abilities, but even then the most "multiversal" part of the story involves Molecule Man and his various incarnations. We know that the movies will be more multiverse related because they're capping off the "Multiverse Saga". But McFeely and the Russo Brothers are using both comic events as inspiration. I don't think it's going to involve "every" universe. Just some select ones, like how Deadpool and Wolverine was 616 and 10005.
AceofKnaves442025-10-09 22:13
I feel like them going with a multiverse saga, the stories they’ve been telling during it, Loki being in Doomsday with where we left him, and then ending it all with the famous story of Secret Wars, kind of makes it clear where they’re going most likely. Loki is right now kind of like the god of the multiverse. Leaks have suggested that he’s the Macguffin of Doomsday and the plot point which all of the heroes and Doom are chasing. Since the next two Avengers movies are connected, and going off how they handled that the last time with Infinity War and Endgame, Doomsday will likely end with a big ole cliffhanger and the villain seemingly winning. Putting everything together, it seems highly likely that cliffhanger is Doom making his way to Loki, taking him out, and setting himself as the new god of the multiverse. This disruption likely triggers a massive disruption that is felt throughout the entire multiverse. This loops in EVERY universe that has ever existed in Marvel films and tv. This creates a very loose continuity that ties every Marvel project together and allows them to scoop people up and bring them back in Secret Wars as they’re all now fighting a common enemy.
metrichustle2025-10-09 22:48
But think of how awesome it would be to see Garfield’s Spider-Man interact with Famke’s Jean Grey. Or Tobey’s Spider-Man with Barry’s Storm.
AceofKnaves442025-10-09 22:06
If Tobey and Andrew aren’t in Secret Wars I’ll consider it a massive disappointment. They were the first ones who really kickstarted the multiverse saga and the open secret that they’d be in No Way Home pushed that movie to almost making two billion dollars even during COVID.
John7117112025-10-10 03:51
I mean unless they are willing to cut Sony in on some profit sharing I don't see it happening. I mean they get one spider-man so maybe Toby maybe Andrew maybe Holland but 2?
AceofKnaves442025-10-10 03:52
I have no idea how the profit sharing deal works when it comes to Spider-Man appearing in Avengers movies, but they’re already going to be sharing some with Sony having Tom in it. We’ve seen having them all together makes money. It makes sense to add them in.
John7117112025-10-10 04:01
Profit sharing is this Sony get's zip from Disney films that are not titled spider-man even if peter is in them. For Sony Spider-man films in the MCU Disney get's 25% of the box office. So there is 0 incentive for Sony to lend more than 1 Spiderman character to Disney MCU films.
AceofKnaves442025-10-10 04:04
I don’t think it’s very likely but if they’re both down to return and Marvel writes them a part but Sony ends up making it not happen, I will complain very loudly online.
John7117112025-10-10 04:09
I mean i highly doubt we would find out if that was the case.
Unless the actors wanted to burn bridges permanently and never wanted to work with Sony ever again.
I mean Marvel could say it buy then Sony would not want to work with Marvel again.
You don't bad mouth each other like that unless you break up.
AceofKnaves442025-10-10 04:13
It doesn’t necessarily have to be burning bridges. But you really think if Doomsday and Secret Wars come out and they bring back people like Nic Cage or Affleck as Daredevil and Tobey and Andrew never show up you don’t think people will ask them why they didn’t. And if they were down to do it you don’t think they’d say “we talked but Sony and Marvel were unable to come to an agreement?”
AceofKnaves442025-10-10 04:15
And also, you say you don’t want to bad mouth each other, but you also don’t want to disrupt business relationships. Not letting actors show up in a big franchise for no reason other than you don’t want to could be a pretty big “fuck you” to Disney.
John7117112025-10-10 04:21
Sony is in no way stopping those actor's from showing up they just can't play Spider-man.
If Disney would Cut Sony a check or a percentage than a deal could be reached.
It would be good for the fans I mean i would be all for it.
The only issue is Disney has never done it before.
John7117112025-10-10 04:20
First off Nic Cage said he would never do it again.
They already tried and failed to bring him back For deadpool V Wolverine.
Also to your point we talked but sony and marvel were unable to come to an agreement.
In that case it would be both company fault. I mean if Disney would just give some profit sharing for once I'm sure Sony would be reasonable.
CaptainAmeriZa2025-10-09 19:15
Unpopular opinion: they should reveal the full Doomsday cast
If multiversal heroes are making up the main cast it should be revealed who they are so that people who haven’t seen those movies can watch them. Announcing the cast doesn’t mean they have to reveal plot details. I agree with not wanting to know everything but since when did it become a thing that people consider it revealing too much to even announce a full cast, actual cameos excluded?
mega22222222222222222025-10-09 19:18
I think theres a problem in revealing the whole cast as if you know who’s gonna be in it then at any point in the movie were they haven’t shown up you’re expecting them to be in it
Let’s just say at the end of doomsday the 2005 reed is able to say what little heroes are left
If you know that Ioan Gruffudd is going to be in the movie you’re asking yourself oh when is he gonna show up?
But if you don’t have any idea that he’s in the movie that’s a holy shit moment
Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-09 19:23
There's also the issue of unrealistic expectations. For example, if they reveal that Tobey is in the film, the entire movie will be waiting to see Tobey in a leading or very important role... and it turns out to be just a 3-second cameo.
Even if they never told you "Tobey is just an Easter egg, he was never meant to be a main character," announcing it with great fanfare will make people think he'll contribute something.
CaptainAmeriZa2025-10-09 19:25
I did specifically say actual major characters and not just cameos.
just_another_reddit2025-10-09 19:35
Well, good news, they've already revealed all of those. That's who we've got. Everyone else is either a cameo, bit part, or saved for Secret Wars.
CaptainAmeriZa2025-10-09 19:24
If the only way your movie can have a “holy shit moment” is by keeping a major character secret that’s not a good thing. Those don’t even hold up as a “holy shit moment” on rewatches. You should know who is going to star in the movie you’re gonna see, again cameos excluded.
Were you really just focused on waiting for Captain America and Black Panther to show up the entire beginning of Infinity War? Or the Illuminati in Multiverse of Madness?
mega22222222222222222025-10-09 19:30
No I wasn’t focused on seeing cap or Black Panther appear in infinity war
because unfortunately when you’re dealing with the Multiverse saga, there is an inherent expectation to see characters or versions of characters we are familiar with from the past
Infinity Saga, the holy shit moment was genuine plot twists and reveals like the snap
The only time I really found myself like on my seat waiting for a character to show up in the infinity saga was Spider-Man because it’s Spider-Man in the mcu for the first time
Like let’s say we were in a mutant focused saga
You would be kind of waiting for characters such as apocalypse or Phoenix or Mr. Sinister to make an appearance in a big movie.
faanawrt2025-10-09 19:53
It became a thing with the Multiverse Saga, starting with Wandavision. While Evan Peters wasn't actually a multiversal Quicksilver, they hid from marketing until he was revealed at within the show. And for the remaining episodes he was more apart of the cast than just a cameo, even if he wound up being inconsequential.
No Way Home hid Tobey and Andrew until release, and they filled bigger roles than just cameos.
My memory is less clear on Deadpool & Wolverine's marketing, but I'm pretty sure they hid Wesley Snipes, Jennifer Garner, and Channing Tatum until release as well.
People watching past Marvel movies to prepare for Doomsday and Secret Wars is not something Marvel Studios intends the audience to do. So far in the Multiverse Saga there hasn't been any storytelling that has made any of the Fox or Sony produced movies into prerequisite material, expect for the exceptions of Deadpool 1 and 2 since D&W functions as Deadpool 3, and fortunately those two movies were purposely written to not need any of the X-Men movies as required viewing. These Avengers movies are certainly going to avoid making anyone feel like they needed to have watched a non-Marvel Studios film beforeband.
machinegunsheep2025-10-09 19:15
Honestly I hope not…I want to see an actual movie not nostalgia cameos…
mega22222222222222222025-10-09 19:16
Two minutes in, if anyone’s wondering
The_Iceman22882025-10-09 19:18
nicolasb519420032025-10-09 19:18
I believe him this time. Secret Wars is the best opportunity to bring Garfield and Maguire back before the saga ends.
Single-Pianist-22112025-10-09 19:19
Chairs cast is all the major cast. Anyone not in the chairs is a tiny supporting role
obligatorythr0waway2025-10-09 19:21
He's definitely not the werewolf.
LnStrngr2025-10-09 19:25
My suspicion is that Doomsday will whittle down the number of heroes in the MCU. I would not be surprised if they showed up to be knocked off.
I also would not be surprised if they show up in Secret Wars as part of 616 Peter's growth into a leader.
UserWithno-Name2025-10-09 19:28
Me thinks he doth protest too much…
DelcoUnited2025-10-09 19:29
Man this shit is going to be so awkward at the Premier and Andrew is watching it with everyone else and suddenly Tobey swings into frame while he and Tom save the day while making corny dialog and jokes about loving MJ and being Spider twins.
Maximus3612025-10-09 19:31
Sounds like a “yes” to me!😂
El_Trollio_Jr2025-10-09 19:32
I think Tobey will be in it as there is enough smoke around his rumors for a possibility. Not sure about Andrew though.
Th35h4d0w2025-10-09 19:33
"Will you please listen to me! I'm not in Avengers: Doomsday!"
"He is in Avengers: Doomsday!"
unclecaveman12025-10-09 19:34
Keep in mind, them being in would require deals with Sony. They could appear in No Way Home because Sony was involved. Not the same for Avengers movies, and Marvel will never let Sony come in and take part of the proceeds from Avengers movies just for a couple cameos.
John7117112025-10-10 03:56
I know I can't believe all of these people are so convinced that both toby and andrew will appear in a film Sony makes nothing from.
ItsameLuigi10182025-10-09 19:34
So you're saying there's a chance...
GrayGuard972025-10-09 19:37
So a yes?
Lost-Lu2025-10-09 19:37
Not a werewolf this time. They will be in Secret Wars.
replayer2025-10-09 19:39
And if they do, his answer would be the same. It's called an NDA.
Fwiw, I don't think they'll be in Doomsday, but Secret Wars.
catninjaambush2025-10-09 19:39
I saw Andrew Garfield once, walking by the Thames. He was very nice. Also, he whispered: ‘I will be in Avengers Doomsday.’
ambivalentarrow2025-10-09 19:41
Confirmed!
Tutthole2025-10-09 19:43
I think No Way Home was a perfect send off for Toby and Andrew. They both came to terms with their biggest traumas from their respective pasts, and moved on.
RoliePolieOlie__2025-10-09 19:44
That’s a yes
demonoddy2025-10-09 19:52
We have been down this road before lol. He’s probably in secret wars though to be fair
LemonStains2025-10-09 19:56
That sounds exactly like something a werewolf would say
hokagenaruto2025-10-09 20:00
must also be annoying tho if you are telling the truth but nobody believes you
EveningCandle8622025-10-09 20:06
Doomsday? Probably not. Secret Wars tho, he & Tobey will for sure be in that one.
POOTDISPENSER2025-10-09 20:13
Andrew: “I’ve played these games before!”
Cripnite2025-10-09 20:14
So yes then.
Morgoth18142025-10-09 20:16
So they’re coming back. Nice
DJfunkyPuddle2025-10-09 20:18
Anybody suggesting these guys show up again needs a smack.
JustinF6082025-10-09 20:19
Doomsday, agreed. I think they’re all back for secret wars.
HeberMonteiro2025-10-09 20:28
At this point I think both of them are much more likely to appear in their own movies than they are to appear in Doomsday.
JULIANGJNKS222025-10-09 20:28
Marvel Studios is gonna go bankrupt, after employing damn near everyone. 😂
Distinct_Bill_14422025-10-09 20:35
So they film next week
dyrannn2025-10-09 20:39
I hate cameo slop era I hate cameo slop era I hate cameo slop era I hate cameo slop era I hate cameo slop era I hate cameo slop era
r01-85062025-10-09 20:48
Even his hair seemingly looks closer to the original Peter Parker in the comics.
LoreMaster002025-10-09 20:55
oh, so that's a yes then. nice.
toreadornotto2025-10-09 20:55
No werewolf to be found anytime soon 😅
jessterswan2025-10-09 21:00
Thank God. He was great as Spidey, and a fun time in NWH, but do we really need to keep doing this?
MrFiendish2025-10-09 21:07
I’m one of those who think Endgame had amazing moments, but it was a complete narrative mess. Too many balls in the air.
Doomsday is going to be worse, and they don’t even have the benefit of having the majority of the most popular characters in Marvel. No one’s going to watch Doomsday hoping to see Ironheart.
Armandonerd2025-10-09 21:10
Or in other words, just wait and relax
Elemius2025-10-09 21:14
I think I’d be more inclined to believe he wasn’t in it if he said yes at this point.
BillytheMagicToilet2025-10-09 21:17
HygorBohmHubner2025-10-09 21:20
After No Way Home, everytime Andrew says no, I hear yes, or maybe.
ColossiKiller2025-10-09 21:57
Bro has got priors here
Kittens4Brunch2025-10-09 22:32
He's a God damn liar tho.
WaffleHouseGladiator2025-10-09 22:41
I just want to know why he's dressed like Mr. Bean.
CaptHayfever2025-10-09 22:52
Leave this man alone. Either he's not in it or he's under NDA; either way, the answer will be "no".
josephus18112025-10-09 23:55
This means yes in Garfield speak. If he wasn't he'd have joked he was.
TheZoker2025-10-10 01:10
Jackielegs432025-10-10 02:12
Doomsday is a fox movie, no room for the Sony boiz
NegotiationLate85532025-10-10 03:17
Secret Wars is likely gonna be where the heavy hitters come around. All signs are pointing to a major reset for the MCU afterwards.
carson630002025-10-10 07:50
Not sure why people expected Andrew Garfield to be in Doomsday when he wasn't in No Way Home.
AgeofPhoenix2025-10-10 08:16
Andrew will always be MY Spider-Man
NoCompetition29542025-10-11 07:29
Ask Sony they are fucking strict
Steups132025-10-11 08:32
He's a real sweetheart.
thePinguOverlord2025-10-11 14:46
If he does in either film. He has to keep that hair!!!
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Doomsday and Secret Wars, on the other hand, *are*.
Unlike Doomsday or Secret wars where they make none.
There is maybe a slim chance for them to show up in Secret Wars. I personally feel like with two massive avengers movies, concluding the multiverse saga, and a spider-man movie, its one of there best chances to bring Miles Morales into things, and have a young hero that people will probably care about.
But even then, you don't need Andrew Garfield and Toby Maguire for that. But it might be fun.
But no way they’re in Doomsday.
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They're also just like... good movies.
For some fucking reason, Tom have the most screen time out of all the Spider-Men and yet He feels like we have hardy seen him do much Spider-Stuff. I don't want Miles to be a thing in MCU until this trilogy finishes.
It's because it will be 4.5 years since we last saw Tom, with only ~2 years in between his previous movies and a film appearance every year between those. 6 movies in 5 years, compared to 1 in alllmost 5 years. And in all those films, he traveled the world and space and only spent a fraction of his first film (from 8 years ago!) doing neighborhood stuff.
Mark my words, Secret Wars will be basically the hard reset and the next movie will be a soft reboot for the new MCU.
That movie is gonna be jam-packed with Endgame/NoWayHome level callbacks, cameos and the like from all the things that Marvel can get their hands on.
ie: They're both coming back again for sure.
This is what everybody is expecting them to do & that’s why Feige literally just straight up said it in an interview.
Calm down, they've basically said as such. Everyone know Secret Wars will be legacy actor city and that we'll have a soft reset of the universe afterwards.
But don't worry.
*"It's fine" - ~~Jennifer Garner~~ Elektra*
Unless the actors wanted to burn bridges permanently and never wanted to work with Sony ever again.
I mean Marvel could say it buy then Sony would not want to work with Marvel again.
You don't bad mouth each other like that unless you break up.
If Disney would Cut Sony a check or a percentage than a deal could be reached.
It would be good for the fans I mean i would be all for it.
The only issue is Disney has never done it before.
They already tried and failed to bring him back For deadpool V Wolverine.
Also to your point we talked but sony and marvel were unable to come to an agreement.
In that case it would be both company fault. I mean if Disney would just give some profit sharing for once I'm sure Sony would be reasonable.
If multiversal heroes are making up the main cast it should be revealed who they are so that people who haven’t seen those movies can watch them. Announcing the cast doesn’t mean they have to reveal plot details. I agree with not wanting to know everything but since when did it become a thing that people consider it revealing too much to even announce a full cast, actual cameos excluded?
Let’s just say at the end of doomsday the 2005 reed is able to say what little heroes are left
If you know that Ioan Gruffudd is going to be in the movie you’re asking yourself oh when is he gonna show up?
But if you don’t have any idea that he’s in the movie that’s a holy shit moment
Even if they never told you "Tobey is just an Easter egg, he was never meant to be a main character," announcing it with great fanfare will make people think he'll contribute something.
Were you really just focused on waiting for Captain America and Black Panther to show up the entire beginning of Infinity War? Or the Illuminati in Multiverse of Madness?
because unfortunately when you’re dealing with the Multiverse saga, there is an inherent expectation to see characters or versions of characters we are familiar with from the past
Infinity Saga, the holy shit moment was genuine plot twists and reveals like the snap
The only time I really found myself like on my seat waiting for a character to show up in the infinity saga was Spider-Man because it’s Spider-Man in the mcu for the first time
Like let’s say we were in a mutant focused saga
You would be kind of waiting for characters such as apocalypse or Phoenix or Mr. Sinister to make an appearance in a big movie.
No Way Home hid Tobey and Andrew until release, and they filled bigger roles than just cameos.
My memory is less clear on Deadpool & Wolverine's marketing, but I'm pretty sure they hid Wesley Snipes, Jennifer Garner, and Channing Tatum until release as well.
People watching past Marvel movies to prepare for Doomsday and Secret Wars is not something Marvel Studios intends the audience to do. So far in the Multiverse Saga there hasn't been any storytelling that has made any of the Fox or Sony produced movies into prerequisite material, expect for the exceptions of Deadpool 1 and 2 since D&W functions as Deadpool 3, and fortunately those two movies were purposely written to not need any of the X-Men movies as required viewing. These Avengers movies are certainly going to avoid making anyone feel like they needed to have watched a non-Marvel Studios film beforeband.
I also would not be surprised if they show up in Secret Wars as part of 616 Peter's growth into a leader.
"He is in Avengers: Doomsday!"
Fwiw, I don't think they'll be in Doomsday, but Secret Wars.
Doomsday is going to be worse, and they don’t even have the benefit of having the majority of the most popular characters in Marvel. No one’s going to watch Doomsday hoping to see Ironheart.